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>> well, we're from california, but came to ohio, california is kind of a safe state. we wanted to be where the action was, and it is very important to get every single voter out there. >> reporter: she is the lead veteran here. >> how long have you been doing this? >> oh, about 50 years. >> reporter: 50 years you have been volunteering for democrats? >> yes, if they don't have rides we're standing, ready to pick them up to carry them and put them right on the spot. wherever it is. >> reporter: on the other side of town, from the other side of the aisle, another group of ladies is burning up the phone lines for governor mitt romney, for mary mogan, sometimes her calls are a success. >> can we count on your vote for mitt? yes, that is what i want to hear, thank you so much. >> reporter: and sometimes, not so much. >> can we count on you for mitt romney? headli hello. i guess that is a no. >> reporter: across the table, one-month call newy says she is unempl unemployed, and hope that mitt romney will help her get back to work. >> i hear excitement on the other line, and
>> well, we're from california, but came to ohio, california is kind of a safe state. we wanted to be where the action was, and it is very important to get every single voter out there. >> reporter: she is the lead veteran here. >> how long have you been doing this? >> oh, about 50 years. >> reporter: 50 years you have been volunteering for democrats? >> yes, if they don't have rides we're standing, ready to pick them up to carry them and put them right on...
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california has a medicinal marijuana law. other states have passed some others. >> recreational. >> we have a laboratory of democracy. we don't always agree with the states. some states have capital punishment, some don't. some have legalized recreational use of marijuana and some states me did nal. i believe the justice department ought to respect the will of the separate states. >> in other words, no federal prosecution since it is a federal drug law of those who have legalized small amounts of marijuana. >> i think the federal law can maintain but it shouldn't try to nullify reasonable state measures. i'm not saying the state can do anything they want, but the measures that have been adopted so far have been after vigorous deba debate. in fact. there's been a mann legalization that's been rejektded. we don't need some federal person to come in and tell us what to. do i believe commonty, decent respect. >> careful. you might sound like a republican with the states rights thing. >> there's a logic to it because i know of the
california has a medicinal marijuana law. other states have passed some others. >> recreational. >> we have a laboratory of democracy. we don't always agree with the states. some states have capital punishment, some don't. some have legalized recreational use of marijuana and some states me did nal. i believe the justice department ought to respect the will of the separate states. >> in other words, no federal prosecution since it is a federal drug law of those who have...
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. >> brianna keeler in hollywood, california. and we'll go back to hollywood, florida, when the president starts to speak. >>> all right, meantime republican mitt romney is conceding nothing to the president. earlier he spoke to voters in the democratic stronghold of cleveland, ohio. no republican candidate has ever won the white house without winning ohio. and romney expects to continue that streak. >> if you believe america should be on a better course or if you're tired of being tired, i ask you to vote for real change. paul ryan and i will bring real change to america from day one. when i'm elected the economy and american jobs will still be stagnant, but i won't waste any time complaining about my predecessor. >> this was the second of four events romney had scheduled for today. next up for the republican candidate is pennsylvania. so america has 50 states, but it's the key battleground state where is the race just might be decided come tuesday. right now cnn estimates that nine states shown here on the make or break states.
. >> brianna keeler in hollywood, california. and we'll go back to hollywood, florida, when the president starts to speak. >>> all right, meantime republican mitt romney is conceding nothing to the president. earlier he spoke to voters in the democratic stronghold of cleveland, ohio. no republican candidate has ever won the white house without winning ohio. and romney expects to continue that streak. >> if you believe america should be on a better course or if you're tired...
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california. the other two are florida and texas, which i found interesting. big population of veterans. >> texas is another big state. >> yeah, another big state. and the state with the highest percentage of veterans, i would have never have guessed this. >> highest percentage? >> highest percentage. the answer, alaska. 14%. >> like per capita? >> yeah, out of every 100 -- 14% of the population in alaska. there's one thing i want to remind everyone. president obama was talking about this. there are 3.5 million americans in this country who have disabilities due to their military service and they have different ratings on that in terms of their disabilities. but that's important for all of us to keep in mind. these are people whose disabilities stem from their service to the country. 3.5 million people like that. there are a lot more. during the conversation of ireport, we're celebrating the wisdom of veterans. >> extraordinary individuals who made ultimate sacrifices in so many different ways. all right, josh, thank you for that. >> you bet. >>> you heard som
california. the other two are florida and texas, which i found interesting. big population of veterans. >> texas is another big state. >> yeah, another big state. and the state with the highest percentage of veterans, i would have never have guessed this. >> highest percentage? >> highest percentage. the answer, alaska. 14%. >> like per capita? >> yeah, out of every 100 -- 14% of the population in alaska. there's one thing i want to remind everyone. president...
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new york republican peter king joins me and california democrat adam schiff. congressman king, you were in that briefing today. you saw the surveillance, the drone video recovered from the benghazi compound. is there anything about what you saw today that changes your assessment of the situation? because you have been a tough critic of the administration. >> yeah, not really the video. i didn't see much controversial about the video. maybe adam will disagree. i thought it was objective. i don't think it really answered the questions either side would have had. my objection was that contrary to what dana said, the democrats were saying, one democrat said, i try not to make it partisan, i don't believe the talking points given to susan rice obtained all the intelligence the intelligence community had. without going into detail, there were several reports clearly stating that al qaeda affiliated groups were involved in the attack and were very heavily involved in the attack and that did not make it into the talking points, did not make it into the final talking p
new york republican peter king joins me and california democrat adam schiff. congressman king, you were in that briefing today. you saw the surveillance, the drone video recovered from the benghazi compound. is there anything about what you saw today that changes your assessment of the situation? because you have been a tough critic of the administration. >> yeah, not really the video. i didn't see much controversial about the video. maybe adam will disagree. i thought it was objective. i...
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. >> susan, we have seen crazy results in california. there is a rebuttable presumption, one shoot, two, this case could go to the jury. [ male announcer ] break the grip of aches or arthritis pain with odor free aspercreme. powerful medicine relieves pain fast, with no odor. so all you notice is relief. aspercreme. rebuttable presumpti . >>> in california, a 90-year-old man retaliated after he was shot in the face after a burglary, now get this, they are suing him after he returned fire. richard herman and new york criminal defense attorney law professor joins us from las vegas, richard, i'll start with you on this. what do you say to this? it is unbelievable. >> it is unbelievable, for 200, $300, anybody can file a lawsuit. and we see it every year, unbelievable cases, ninety-year-old man has his house broken into, gets tied up. the burglar is stealing in front of him, he breaks free, there is a shootout. he ends up shooting him three times. the assailant here gets convicted. prison term and sues because he was shot. >> yeah. >> believ
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it's the largest cash crop in california currently. now, if you take those figures and project them nationwide, and by the way over 100 million americans admit to having smoked marijuana at some point in their lives, you start taxing this, it's going to be a massive source of revenue for state and local governments. in the end, you know, that may be the strongest argument in these tough economic times to regulate it and tax it since it's being sold illegally in any event. >> so from a legal standpoint, do you think this is the beginning of the end of illegal marijuana in the u.s.? >> i do think this. we're now up to eight states that have legalized the drug. and i think you're going to see a trend toward many, many more. i do think, of course, we've got to get the federal government to get unified with the states on it, but, you know, it's a -- how can the feds stop this? if one state after another state legalizes it, they just don't have the resources to shut it down. so i think we're seeing a trend and i think we'll see more of it in
it's the largest cash crop in california currently. now, if you take those figures and project them nationwide, and by the way over 100 million americans admit to having smoked marijuana at some point in their lives, you start taxing this, it's going to be a massive source of revenue for state and local governments. in the end, you know, that may be the strongest argument in these tough economic times to regulate it and tax it since it's being sold illegally in any event. >> so from a...
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the largest cash crop in california currently. if you take those figures and project them nationwide, and over 100 million americans admit to having smoked marijuana some time in their lives, if you tax it, it's a massive source of revenue. that may be the strongest argument in these tough times to regulate it and tax it since it's being sold illegally. so so do you think this is the beginning of the end? >> i do think this. we're now up to eight states that legalized the drug, and i think you will see a trend toward many, many more. i think, of course, we have to get the federal government to get unified with the states on it. how can the fed stop this? if one state after another legalizes it, they don't have the resources to shut it down. >> that was paul callen, i spoke to him earlier today for that legalization of the recreational use of marijuana. many small business owners were badly hit in the recession. what they hope the government will now do about the economy. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we'v
the largest cash crop in california currently. if you take those figures and project them nationwide, and over 100 million americans admit to having smoked marijuana some time in their lives, if you tax it, it's a massive source of revenue. that may be the strongest argument in these tough times to regulate it and tax it since it's being sold illegally. so so do you think this is the beginning of the end? >> i do think this. we're now up to eight states that legalized the drug, and i...
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. >> reporter: and it matters how california looks and how nevada looks and virginia looks. >> right. >> reporter: it is difficult for mitt romney to say that the economy is in free fall. it is not. sue heads the iowa democratic party. >> the president won by ten percentage points in the last election, so, sue, why can't he lock it down right now, it is neck and neck. >> well, we feel like we are lock it down. we have been lockingt down for two years. >> i think that she is selling you something to be honest with you. i don't feel it is in lockdown. >> reporter: we found plenty of iowans who are not convinced by either campaign. >> i don't see fiscally how we can sustain ourself, because europe right now and the huge empire countries are going bankrupt. it is going to be us. >> reporter: and orthodonnist chad morarend thinks that the deficit is not enough for either side. >> i don't think that either side has a plan. it is the lesser of two evils. >> reporter: back at creighton medals, he says he cannot expand. he says he is frozen about whether we fall off of the fiscal cliff. >> i n
. >> reporter: and it matters how california looks and how nevada looks and virginia looks. >> right. >> reporter: it is difficult for mitt romney to say that the economy is in free fall. it is not. sue heads the iowa democratic party. >> the president won by ten percentage points in the last election, so, sue, why can't he lock it down right now, it is neck and neck. >> well, we feel like we are lock it down. we have been lockingt down for two years. >> i...
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>> we're from california. we came to ohio because, you know, california is kind of a safe state, we wanted to be where the action was. and, you know, it is really important to get every single voter out there. >> reporter: alina smith is the veteran here. how long have you been doing this? >> about 50 years. >> reporter: 50 years you've been volunteering? >> yes. >> reporter: for democrats? >> yes. >> reporter: and for the president now? >> if they don't have rides, we're ready to pick them up and carry them and put them right on the spot, whatever it is. >> reporter: on the other side of town, from the other side of the aisle, another group of ladies is burning up the phone lines for governor mitt romney. for mary mogan, sometimes the calls are a success. >> can we count on your vote for mitt? yes, that's what i want to hear! thank you, ma'am, so much. >> reporter: and sometimes not so much. >> can we count on you for mitt romney? hello? i guess that's a no. >> reporter: across the table, one month call newby
>> we're from california. we came to ohio because, you know, california is kind of a safe state, we wanted to be where the action was. and, you know, it is really important to get every single voter out there. >> reporter: alina smith is the veteran here. how long have you been doing this? >> about 50 years. >> reporter: 50 years you've been volunteering? >> yes. >> reporter: for democrats? >> yes. >> reporter: and for the president now? >>...
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. >>> california voters will consider a ballot measure that would abolish the state's death penalty. if proposition 34 goes through, more than 700 death row inmates would have their sentences commuted to life in prison without parole. >>> and with all the buzz about the romance between president obama and chris christie and the wake of superstorm sandy, you knew it would not take long for "saturday night live" to add their two cents. >> so i would like to give a sincere thanks to president obama for how he handled the situation on election day, i'm voting for mitt romney. but if i had to pick one guy to have my back in a crisis, it would be barack obama. he's been amazing. you know, so kind, such a leader, a tree inspiration. again, i'll be a good soldier, i'll vote for romney but i'm going to hate him, too. >> mitt romney also on the receiving end of some spoofing. we'll have that for you a little later this morning. much more ahead as a special edition of "early start" continues right now on cnn live from washington, d.c. >>> good morning, everybody. welcome to our special coverage
. >>> california voters will consider a ballot measure that would abolish the state's death penalty. if proposition 34 goes through, more than 700 death row inmates would have their sentences commuted to life in prison without parole. >>> and with all the buzz about the romance between president obama and chris christie and the wake of superstorm sandy, you knew it would not take long for "saturday night live" to add their two cents. >> so i would like to give...
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democrats are trying hard to unseat gop incumbents in blue states like california, new york, and illinois. and could see gains in maryland and florida. so why do these house races matter? members of congress will have to make big decisions in the coming months. chief among them, reaching a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, a series of tax increases and spending cuts set to take effect next year. >> the decisions confronting congress over the next four months are bigger than i think most of us have seen in our lifetime. at least on the fiscal matters. >> reporter: it's not just the fiscal cliff. >> most people think we need some fundamental tax
democrats are trying hard to unseat gop incumbents in blue states like california, new york, and illinois. and could see gains in maryland and florida. so why do these house races matter? members of congress will have to make big decisions in the coming months. chief among them, reaching a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, a series of tax increases and spending cuts set to take effect next year. >> the decisions confronting congress over the next four months are bigger than i...
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. >>> the california filmmaker behind an anti-muslim film that sparked riots across the middle east is returning to prison. mark youssef will spend one year behind bars for violating his probation from a bank fraud case, using several fake names, including one with while shooting "the innocence of muslims," depicting the prophet mohammed as a killer and child molester. >>> one young mother in kenya has named her newborn twins barack obama and mitt romney. >> translator: i gave birth to twins and decided to name them after barack obama and mitt romney. i named the first one barack and the second one mitt just like obama and romney in the u.s. election. >> we can only hope congress can show such bipartisan love. they will soon get their chance. dan lothian at the white house. dan, i understand -- >> reporter: how can i follow that? >> i know. i just kind of feel sorry for the newborn named mitt because, of course, he lost the election. maybe that won't resonate in kenya. >> reporter: exactly. >> an honorable man. i'm not saying anything bad about mitt romney the person. what can you tell
. >>> the california filmmaker behind an anti-muslim film that sparked riots across the middle east is returning to prison. mark youssef will spend one year behind bars for violating his probation from a bank fraud case, using several fake names, including one with while shooting "the innocence of muslims," depicting the prophet mohammed as a killer and child molester. >>> one young mother in kenya has named her newborn twins barack obama and mitt romney. >>...
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so from nevada, from california, texas, ohio. they come here to do exactly what they're doing, transport patients in situations like this, soledad. >> i was told by a friend who was in the hospital that the ambulance he was transported out of, she was taken out of nyu langone, she said, from ohio, and they were prepositioned before the storm by fema and felt it went really well. so nyu langone is actually right next to bellevue. they're right, very close to the water, a block from the water. i want to bring in, sanjay, dr. irwin redlener, he's a professor at columbia university, the school of public health there. you and i have talked a lot about hospitals in the wake of katrina. why do people put the power in the basement? it seems to me the first thing that's going to go in a flood or any kind of, not even a major a storm, but a minor storm, is your basement's going to flood. >> this has been a bit of a technological whack-a-mole here, because we realized after katrina, and even after the blackout of 2003, we had to do somethin
so from nevada, from california, texas, ohio. they come here to do exactly what they're doing, transport patients in situations like this, soledad. >> i was told by a friend who was in the hospital that the ambulance he was transported out of, she was taken out of nyu langone, she said, from ohio, and they were prepositioned before the storm by fema and felt it went really well. so nyu langone is actually right next to bellevue. they're right, very close to the water, a block from the...
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or go to california and get a prescription. >> thank you. >>> both parties predicted victory on election day. but for mitt romney something went wrong on the way to 270 electoral votes. we're going to do the math to see what happened. john king is standing by. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time, and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. [ male announcer ] a european-inspired suspension, but not from germany. ♪ a powerful, fuel-efficient engine, but it's not from japan. ♪ it's a car like no other... inspired by a place like no other. introducing the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu, our greatest malibu ever.
or go to california and get a prescription. >> thank you. >>> both parties predicted victory on election day. but for mitt romney something went wrong on the way to 270 electoral votes. we're going to do the math to see what happened. john king is standing by. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time, and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a...
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. >> reporter: it matters how california looks, it matters how nevada looks, matters how virginia looks. >> right. >> reporter: it is difficult for mitt romney to say this economy is in freefall. it is not. >> reporter: >> unemployment rates here is pretty -- good. 5.2%, one of the lowest in the country. the president won here by ten percentage points in the last election. my question here is why can't he lock it down right now? it's neck and neck. >> you know, though, we actually feel like we are locking it down. we have been lock it down for two years. >> i think he is selling something. i don't think it's locked down. >> reporter: we found plenty of iowans that aren't defensed by either campaign. >> fiscally i just don't see how we can sustain ourselves. i mean, europe right now, i mean, big huge great empires, countries and all that, that they're going bankrupt. it's going to be us. >> reporter: orthodontist chad moran plans to vote for romney, but didn't think his math udz up to erase the deficit. >> i don't think either side honestly really has a plan for going ahead. >> it become
. >> reporter: it matters how california looks, it matters how nevada looks, matters how virginia looks. >> right. >> reporter: it is difficult for mitt romney to say this economy is in freefall. it is not. >> reporter: >> unemployment rates here is pretty -- good. 5.2%, one of the lowest in the country. the president won here by ten percentage points in the last election. my question here is why can't he lock it down right now? it's neck and neck. >> you...
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in palm springs, california, mary bono mack isn't giving up. she trails raul ruiz with all precincts reported. her husband, connie mack lost his bid for senate. republican congressman alan west is not conceding dough feet. he is dand iing a recount against challenger patrick murphy, who has a slim lead of less than 2,500 votes. that is more than what is needed to trigger an automatic recount. >>> hillary clinton will pay tribute to slain u.s. ambassador chris stevens at an awards ceremony tonight in washington. stevens was killed in the september attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. honoring outstanding accomplishments in conflict, resolution and negotiation. >>> former arizona representative gabby giffords and husband mark kelly will be on hand in a tucson courtroom when the man who shot giffords receives his sentence. kelly is expected to read a statement during that hearing. 24-year-old jared lee laughner murder murdered six people. giffords and 12 others were wounded. he will be sentenced as part of a plea deal arranged in augus
in palm springs, california, mary bono mack isn't giving up. she trails raul ruiz with all precincts reported. her husband, connie mack lost his bid for senate. republican congressman alan west is not conceding dough feet. he is dand iing a recount against challenger patrick murphy, who has a slim lead of less than 2,500 votes. that is more than what is needed to trigger an automatic recount. >>> hillary clinton will pay tribute to slain u.s. ambassador chris stevens at an awards...
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. >> reporter: currently in the firefighting training with california conservation core. just pull. >> close it. there you go. >> offer a lot of training. it's really good they're doing this for especially veterans because it can be hard to find jobs. pla play with chain saw. practice laying hose from an engine, which we hadn't done, with actual watt. >> that influences the wild land fires. >> it's mostly veterans, it's easy for us to click somewhere just work together. so teamwork thing fell into place really well. i was aviation hydraulics and air frames mechanic. i was stationed at camp pendleton and deployed to afghanistan in 2010. it was a bloody summer while there. i saw a lot of bodies coming back. >> i was in the u.s. navy for four years and ply job title was quarter master. we helped out with amphibious operations, we had a lot of marines on the boats. i was focused on navy, i never imagined myself being a firefighter, never imagined myself going through training. it's been challenging but the challenge is more than welcomed. i'm hoping that i get picked up with
. >> reporter: currently in the firefighting training with california conservation core. just pull. >> close it. there you go. >> offer a lot of training. it's really good they're doing this for especially veterans because it can be hard to find jobs. pla play with chain saw. practice laying hose from an engine, which we hadn't done, with actual watt. >> that influences the wild land fires. >> it's mostly veterans, it's easy for us to click somewhere just work...
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they say during the stretch of declines, the average price s dropped nearly 33 cents. >> a california family won't have to worry about the price of gas anymore. lottery officials have found the winner of a $23 million super lotto plus ticket just days before the ticket expired. the winner came forward after her daughter realized she had bought the ticket and given it to her mom. officials had launched a media campaign to try to find her. >> she called me at 11:00 at night, woke me up and said this is you, you have to see it. i said no, no, i'll see it in the morning. i went to sleep. i woke up and i had all these missed calls and texts. i was like, wait a minute, maybe i should see what this is. as soon as i pulled it up, i was like, oh, my god, that is me. i was like -- >> oh, my. the lucky winner says she is going to use the money to help family members including two special needs children that she adopted. >> i want to take you straight to oxford, ohio, now where first lady michelle obama is there stumping for her husband, the president. she's at the miami university. let's listen
they say during the stretch of declines, the average price s dropped nearly 33 cents. >> a california family won't have to worry about the price of gas anymore. lottery officials have found the winner of a $23 million super lotto plus ticket just days before the ticket expired. the winner came forward after her daughter realized she had bought the ticket and given it to her mom. officials had launched a media campaign to try to find her. >> she called me at 11:00 at night, woke me...
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policy that everyone wants to get to the answer, including senator dianne feinstein, the democrat from california. as far as those talking points go, it is not at all clear where they were edited. what we do know apparently is that the original determination that al qaeda was involved, or al qaeda affiliated groups was sent out the front door to the cia and went through some sort of editing process, perhaps interagency, perhaps at the white house that still hasn't been answered. what we do know is if the white house wanted to provide the answers, they could have done it before the election and chose not to. let's not forget, of course, general petraeus and his whole personal scandal, debacle, that could also be professional. we still don't know the answers to that. the administration knew of the petraeus investigation. the president claims that he didn't before the election, now we're only learning of it after. >> let's talk a little bit more about susan rice and that whole situation with the talking points, because she is the ambassador to the u.n. she has been mentioned as a possible replacemen
policy that everyone wants to get to the answer, including senator dianne feinstein, the democrat from california. as far as those talking points go, it is not at all clear where they were edited. what we do know apparently is that the original determination that al qaeda was involved, or al qaeda affiliated groups was sent out the front door to the cia and went through some sort of editing process, perhaps interagency, perhaps at the white house that still hasn't been answered. what we do know...
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in palm springs, california, mary bono mack, she isn't giving up. she trails democrat areraul rui. >> so we're minding your business. u.s. stock futures are flat this morning. >> the markets had a rough day yesterday. chris teens romans here to explain this big selloff. is there an explanation? >> can you see the sectors reacting to a second obama administration. let me show you what it looked like, 313 points, the first dow close below 13,000 in three months. that was the worst day of the year. more than 2% down. when i talk about the internals of the market, i'm talking about banks, insurers, cole companies, energy companies, they fell because, in fact, they think they're going to have higher costs. the markets think they're going to have higher costs in a second obama administration. you saw some obama care related stocks like hospitals up on the assumption that obama care is now secure. the internals showed us how investors in different sectors were reacting to a second obama presidency. but there were also concerns over europe and the fiscal cl
in palm springs, california, mary bono mack, she isn't giving up. she trails democrat areraul rui. >> so we're minding your business. u.s. stock futures are flat this morning. >> the markets had a rough day yesterday. chris teens romans here to explain this big selloff. is there an explanation? >> can you see the sectors reacting to a second obama administration. let me show you what it looked like, 313 points, the first dow close below 13,000 in three months. that was the...
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california versus texas. illinois versus florida. you cut taxes you get more growth. you raise taxes you put people out of work and you bankrupt your state. >> we have you for the whole two hours so i want to get to a quick piece of president obama's op-ed because we already did governor romney's op-ed, i'll have you comment on it and then we're going to continue to chat about this all morning. he writes by the end of president clinton's second term our economy created 23 million new jobs, incomes rose, poverty fell, deficits became the biggest surplus in history. and what his point in part of this op-ed is if you look to the last democrat who he says he's shaping himself in that, in that image, if you will, you know, he was successful in that kind of a strategy. >>> the first two years of president clinton's administration weren't terribly interesting. the economy didn't do very well. however, in november of 1994, when the republicans won the house and the senate, all of a sudden, the stock market started going up, job creation started going up, we got a cut in the c
california versus texas. illinois versus florida. you cut taxes you get more growth. you raise taxes you put people out of work and you bankrupt your state. >> we have you for the whole two hours so i want to get to a quick piece of president obama's op-ed because we already did governor romney's op-ed, i'll have you comment on it and then we're going to continue to chat about this all morning. he writes by the end of president clinton's second term our economy created 23 million new...
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joining me now is chris allen, a worker at the walmart warehouse in ontario, california. good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> first of all, telling me what you guys do in the warehouse. >> well, we unload walmart freight and we load it on to other trailers to go out to other walmarts in southern california region here. >> and what are the working conditions like inside the warehouse? >> well, the working conditions can through the summer we were working through the summer, it's been very hot. and we've been -- haven't been getting water breaks. and we haven't had any clean water. we've been using tap water from the facility at the cross dock. and we've been on strike last month, and we just now seeing these changes with the water coolers and the cross dock. >> how hot did it get inside the warehouse in the summertime? is there air conditioning in there? >> no, there isn't. there's no ventilation in there. it gets up to about 100, 100 to 110 inside the warehouse. maybe even hotter inside the trailer that we move walmart freight. >> so some people might say, oh, well th
joining me now is chris allen, a worker at the walmart warehouse in ontario, california. good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> first of all, telling me what you guys do in the warehouse. >> well, we unload walmart freight and we load it on to other trailers to go out to other walmarts in southern california region here. >> and what are the working conditions like inside the warehouse? >> well, the working conditions can through the summer we were working through...
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elsewhere it will be warm across southern california, cool across the northeast. let's talk about the potential impact for this incoming nor'easter.the timing of which will be more so tomorrow than today. heavy rain, coastal flooding, beach erosion and wet snow for the interior. maybe even the coastline. here's a storm going across florida today. get out early, especially across the central and southern part of the state. tomorrow, the low rides up the coastline. it won't be anywhere near like sandy but it will have close enough to have impacts. there are areas that will be evacuating, flood watches in effect. and also some white on the map here. just a combination of really horrifying elements considering the fact that we have tens of thousands of people that are homeless with this storm coming in. zoraida, we'll keep you posted as this forecast changes. >> insult to injury. thank you so much, rob. an evidence hearing is under way at a military base in washington state. it will determine whether robert bales should be tried for murder in the shooting deaths of 16
elsewhere it will be warm across southern california, cool across the northeast. let's talk about the potential impact for this incoming nor'easter.the timing of which will be more so tomorrow than today. heavy rain, coastal flooding, beach erosion and wet snow for the interior. maybe even the coastline. here's a storm going across florida today. get out early, especially across the central and southern part of the state. tomorrow, the low rides up the coastline. it won't be anywhere near like...
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all the way from washington to california. kind of a barrage of storms moving in. that's where the trickiest travel will be for the next five days or so. big picture today, you're dry in the northeast. sunny and cool. southeast, as well. there's the west with those storms beginning to come on in through today, through the weekend, and into next week. temperature-wise, kind of right where we should be for the most part. maybe a degree or so cooler. if you guys are into the meteor shower, after midnight tonight between 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning, look toward the sky where the constellation leo is. it will be a pretty cool night to look up and see it. >> very nice. >> that sounds awesome. plus, we're up at that time anyway. >> all right, alexander steele. thank you so much. >>> 46 minutes after the hour. congressman ron paul bids a no-so-fond farewell to washington after 36 long, long years. hear his parting shot to both sides of the aisle coming up next. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewar
all the way from washington to california. kind of a barrage of storms moving in. that's where the trickiest travel will be for the next five days or so. big picture today, you're dry in the northeast. sunny and cool. southeast, as well. there's the west with those storms beginning to come on in through today, through the weekend, and into next week. temperature-wise, kind of right where we should be for the most part. maybe a degree or so cooler. if you guys are into the meteor shower, after...
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to spend a dime on the assumption that if they said they're going to get california, they might get it. they lost it. >> shrummy, good to see you. >> bob shrum, thank you. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. live election day coverage from washington, d.c. colorado is another one of the key battleground states in this election. the polls there, scheduled to open in less than ten minutes. cnn's ed lavendera is live in lakewood, colorado. >> reporter: good morning, john. western suburb of denver. romney campaign and obama campaigns will be paying close attention to what happens here. how jefferson county votes, many say, will determine which side wins the state of colorado and its nine electoral votes. that's because the nature of this county is equal parts republican, democrat and independent swing voters. they're looking to turn out the vote in jefferson county. early, 1.7 million people voted here in this state already. that is the majority. here in jefferson county, we're told by election offic
to spend a dime on the assumption that if they said they're going to get california, they might get it. they lost it. >> shrummy, good to see you. >> bob shrum, thank you. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. live election day coverage from washington, d.c. colorado is another one of the key battleground states in this election. the polls there, scheduled to open in less than ten minutes. cnn's ed...
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the west coast, including northern california and central california will get a little bit of rainfall as we go through the rest of this week, as we're gettiget getting into the stormy period. and if you're going to be watching the leonid meteor showers friday night into saturday morning, these are the areas where we expect to see the visibility to be good. nothing like the old meteor shower on a cool, crisp, fall evening. that's tomorrow night. guys? >> fantastic. thanks so much, rob. >> all right. >>> today's best advice, coming up. stay with us. so what do you think? basic. at meineke i have options... like oil changes starting at $19.95. my money. my choice. my meineke. >>> just a couple minutes left, as always, we wrap it up with best advice. >> here's christine. >> thanks, guys. today we hear from world champion and u.s. olympian, lolo jones. >> i would say the best advice i give to others who are just trying to pursue any olympic dreams or just any goal they have in life is to be motivated by your failures, because sometimes it takes one, two, maybe three tries, but if you keep
the west coast, including northern california and central california will get a little bit of rainfall as we go through the rest of this week, as we're gettiget getting into the stormy period. and if you're going to be watching the leonid meteor showers friday night into saturday morning, these are the areas where we expect to see the visibility to be good. nothing like the old meteor shower on a cool, crisp, fall evening. that's tomorrow night. guys? >> fantastic. thanks so much, rob....
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look how much they've lost because california gone so solidly democratic. our lifetimes they used to be swing states and now they give any democratic nominee a big advantage right out of the box. >> now listen to this. michael share of "time" noticed the comparisons of the new stump line and former president. not clinton. take a listen here. >> after four years as president, you know me. you may not agree with every decision i've made. you may at times been frustrated by the pace of change but you know what i believe. you know where i stand. >> even when you might not agree with me, you know what i believe. you where i stand. and you know where i'm going to lead our nation. >> very similar pitches. is there any connection between the -- i mean sameties of 2004 and 2008? >> better the devil you know. >> it's the incumbent war cry. you know me. you know who i am. the truth of the matter is, though, i think that voters don't really know who either of these guys are in the end. what would a second obama term look like? and what would a first romney term look li
look how much they've lost because california gone so solidly democratic. our lifetimes they used to be swing states and now they give any democratic nominee a big advantage right out of the box. >> now listen to this. michael share of "time" noticed the comparisons of the new stump line and former president. not clinton. take a listen here. >> after four years as president, you know me. you may not agree with every decision i've made. you may at times been frustrated by...
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. >> i am currently in the fire fighting training with the california conservation corps. when you're holding this, just pull. >> close it. >> there is a lot of training. it is really good that they're doing this -- especially for veterans because it can be hard sometimes to find good jobs. played with the chainsaw. just kind of get associated a little more familiar with it. and then we practice laying hose from an engine which we hadn't done yet with actual water. >> that's what influences the wildland fires, right? >> it is mostly veterans it really easy for us -- a lot of us to click and just work together so the team work thing fell into place really well. i was an aviation hydraulics mechanic. i was stationed at camp pendleton and we deployed to afghanistan in 2010. it was a really bloody summer while we were there. we lost a couple of pilots. i saw a lot of bodies coming back. >> i was in the u.s. navy for four years and my job title was quarter master. we helped out with amphibious operations. we had a lot of marines on our boats. >> the fire is going to be on the l
. >> i am currently in the fire fighting training with the california conservation corps. when you're holding this, just pull. >> close it. >> there is a lot of training. it is really good that they're doing this -- especially for veterans because it can be hard sometimes to find good jobs. played with the chainsaw. just kind of get associated a little more familiar with it. and then we practice laying hose from an engine which we hadn't done yet with actual water. >>...
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of th first law enforcement leaders, a man by the name of august vietnam vommer chief of berkeley in california and also the first leader of international chiefs of police. right after the end of alcohol prohibition in the 1930s, he said that managing drugs in our community is an issue for health. it is not one to be solved through law enforcement. this is nothing new. there are many reasons to end marijuana prohibition in this country and i'm glad that voters in colorado and washington stepped forward. this has been on the president's plate ever since he's been in office and it's time for him to deal with it. >> you were on the front lines for many years in the war on drugs, but i understand a tragic accident of a fellow officer changed your life. is that when you decided that drugs should be legalized? >> that was the real turning point for me. matter of fact, just a few miles from where i sit here in washington, d.c., he was assassinated making an undercover drug buy working with the fbi. and that was the turning point for me. it made me really see how violent our community had become becaus
of th first law enforcement leaders, a man by the name of august vietnam vommer chief of berkeley in california and also the first leader of international chiefs of police. right after the end of alcohol prohibition in the 1930s, he said that managing drugs in our community is an issue for health. it is not one to be solved through law enforcement. this is nothing new. there are many reasons to end marijuana prohibition in this country and i'm glad that voters in colorado and washington stepped...
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the 72-year-old california democrat is expected to announce her decision today. pelosi has scheduled leadership elections for november 29th. that's later than usual. and that's prompted speculation that the former speaker may relinquish her role as a top house democrat. they say she's holding this very close to the vest. >>> and coming up on "starting point," former house speaker and gop presidential hopeful newt gingrich and his wife callista. their take on the presidential election, and will also weigh in on the petraeus scandal. >> and keep it on cnn for special coverage. we told you, president obama holding a news conference at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. wolf blitzer will be all over that for you coming up on cnn. stay watching tv until 1:00. it's worth it. >> that's a great idea. another major toyota recall. close to 3 million cars recalled. this is worldwide. it is affecting mostly 2004 to 2009 freeous models. 670,000 of them were sold in the united states alone. so here's the problem. issues with the car's steering system, and their electric water pumps. toyo
the 72-year-old california democrat is expected to announce her decision today. pelosi has scheduled leadership elections for november 29th. that's later than usual. and that's prompted speculation that the former speaker may relinquish her role as a top house democrat. they say she's holding this very close to the vest. >>> and coming up on "starting point," former house speaker and gop presidential hopeful newt gingrich and his wife callista. their take on the presidential...
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california, jack, sounds good until a glitch kills scores of drivers. we can't even make an electric car let alone cars that drive themselves. maybe in another 20 years or so. mel in houston says i wouldn't have any problem riding in one as long as there was a compute ir override button. there are major hurdles to overcome before this kind of program car becomes common place. and, yes, the car will take the place of my wife's turn to drive on long road trips. bring it on. if you want to read more about this, go to the blog cnn.com/caffertyfile. or through our post on the "the situation room" facebook page. wolf. >>> jack. thank you. and you're in "the situation room." happening now, escalating fears of all-out war looming over the middle east. are israeli ground forces on the brink of moving into gaza? just minutes from now i'll ask the israeli m bass dor to the united states. plus, the mystery man who triggered the fbi petraeus probe revealed. we're getting new information about who this veteran agent is and how he got involved. and a storm victim stru
california, jack, sounds good until a glitch kills scores of drivers. we can't even make an electric car let alone cars that drive themselves. maybe in another 20 years or so. mel in houston says i wouldn't have any problem riding in one as long as there was a compute ir override button. there are major hurdles to overcome before this kind of program car becomes common place. and, yes, the car will take the place of my wife's turn to drive on long road trips. bring it on. if you want to read...
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but now california authorities are seeking to make their own recovery. the civil penalties of more than $4 million for misrepresentations in solic soliciting. california says this charity paid excessive salaries, perks and conducted illegal deals with donated money, all for the benefit of some board members and officers. >> it is a shell game. and i think what we've seen at the end of the day is instead of focusing their intellectual efforts and energies and energies of the corporation on getting money to help the folks who are in need of help, our injured veterans, instead they spend all of their energy, effort and time on these shell games to move money around in order to benefit themselves. >> reporter: according to the chari charity's latest filings, the president of hhv, michael lynch, was paid a salary of $389,000, and that's just the start. in its complaint, california authorities say money donated for hospitalized veterans also paid for memberships in these two country clubses near lynch's home. a cost of $80,000. donated funds paid for this cond
but now california authorities are seeking to make their own recovery. the civil penalties of more than $4 million for misrepresentations in solic soliciting. california says this charity paid excessive salaries, perks and conducted illegal deals with donated money, all for the benefit of some board members and officers. >> it is a shell game. and i think what we've seen at the end of the day is instead of focusing their intellectual efforts and energies and energies of the corporation on...
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california tried it in 2010. was not successful. it will resurface in california. a lot more states will follow. >> they can get tax revenue from it. it's big money. >> big, big money. colorado and jeffrey marin is estimating colorado and washington will each bring in about $50 to $60 million in tax revenue and that's not only that. enforcement savings. $47 million you don't have to run down people. $74 million in colorado. $99 million being saved in washington. then as i was saying earlier there's all this potential tourism. denver, colorado. you have more -- >> the new amsterdam. >> in fact there's an area in denver that i did a lot of reporting from called ramsterdam. there's more dispensaries than starbucks. states are going to look at this much as many have looked at gambling and said hey maybe we can make some money. >> more pot than starbucks pap lot of what we hear about pot it's small business, individual farms. is it possible we could end up with big pot? >> you could. i mean, you think about the infrastructure that's already in the place with a lot of bi
california tried it in 2010. was not successful. it will resurface in california. a lot more states will follow. >> they can get tax revenue from it. it's big money. >> big, big money. colorado and jeffrey marin is estimating colorado and washington will each bring in about $50 to $60 million in tax revenue and that's not only that. enforcement savings. $47 million you don't have to run down people. $74 million in colorado. $99 million being saved in washington. then as i was saying...
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so i just typed in new york and california. it automatically generated the figures for me, and with one click, i can capture this snapshot, share it on facebook and twitter, which i will right after this, and get any other information i want about any state in the country. another thing that fascinates me, if we get away from the numbers and that kind of talk, lots of americans don't vote. i am always interested to hear the stories about people who are voting no matter how you're voting. what's inspiring you and makes you different from people who are apathetic or too busy or can't vote? what's inspiring you? we have this new app set up on my facebook page, joshlevs@cnn. you can click on it, you can show it to all your friend, and we have questions there. i have a screen for you with the questions they have posted for me that's going on my facebook page. we're asking you what is inspiring you to vote? what's getting you out to the polls, if you've already done it or if you plan to do it? what's inspiring you to go out there and
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. >> you're not in new york city, that skyline behind you is mountain view, california. eric schmidt, it sounds like you were in that closed door meeting, we know you weren't, but thank you for joining us. >>> there was a story that went unreported on election night. mitt romney's landslide, he actually had many of them across the country in his loss to barack obama. we went to king county, texas where president obama suffered his most severe shellacking. >> reporter: what do you think of barack obama's first term? >> ain't worth a damn. i don't agree with anything he done. >> reporter: it was a sentiment that was also common after president obama's first run for president. 3.4% chose obama, the lowest for any county in the country. if you could tell barack obama to do one thing, what would you tell -- king county is not only barack obama's lowest vote percentage, it's also the county where he received the lowest total number of votes. nationwide, the president tal tallied more than 62 million votes. but here in this county, he got 5 votes. mitt romney winning 139 to 5,
. >> you're not in new york city, that skyline behind you is mountain view, california. eric schmidt, it sounds like you were in that closed door meeting, we know you weren't, but thank you for joining us. >>> there was a story that went unreported on election night. mitt romney's landslide, he actually had many of them across the country in his loss to barack obama. we went to king county, texas where president obama suffered his most severe shellacking. >> reporter: what...
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but the senate intelligence committee chairwoman, dianne feinstein, from california, said some things that give you a big hint about where this might be headed. have a listen. >> do you think you need to hear from petraeus? >> we may well. and we may well ask. i think that's up to the committee. i think we should have this first hearing, which is the way they wanted to set it up, and then the committee will make the decision. >> so, the man who will testify is mike more re, petraeus' deputy at cia, a longstanding, highly respected intelligence professional. certainly he has all the information. maybe a political question, does congress want to compel petraeus to come out in public after all of this, and tell what he knows? >> wouldn't it be more politically expedient to compel him instead of may well have him come and testify to put all these conspiracy theorists to bed? >> well, you know, politics always trumps, doesn't it? i think that it's an unprecedented situation. so if they want to subpoena him, that may well be more of a political decision. the democrats, of course, control th
but the senate intelligence committee chairwoman, dianne feinstein, from california, said some things that give you a big hint about where this might be headed. have a listen. >> do you think you need to hear from petraeus? >> we may well. and we may well ask. i think that's up to the committee. i think we should have this first hearing, which is the way they wanted to set it up, and then the committee will make the decision. >> so, the man who will testify is mike more re,...
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the reason why is that it works here in the battleground state of california because the romney campaign wants to reach out to the independents. a third of the voters here in colorado are registered independents. and so the last thing the romney campaign wants, and that the obama campaign wants is for those independents to throw up their hands and say i hate both these guys. i'm just going to stay home and not vote. whose coming out so far? colorado secretary of state says 1.6 million people have already cast early votes. and leading right now are registered republicans, by about 35,000 votes. so the republicans here in colorado say they have the ground game, they have the edge. they have the energy. and they believe this the obama win in colorado in 2008 was just a one off that, romney camp will take the stage. in a denver post poll, they say, hey, we have the edge. it appears that obama is slightly leading from according to that poll. having talked to people here, it is simply too close to call. reading the tea leaves, woe'll just have to wait and see what happens on tuesday. >> thank
the reason why is that it works here in the battleground state of california because the romney campaign wants to reach out to the independents. a third of the voters here in colorado are registered independents. and so the last thing the romney campaign wants, and that the obama campaign wants is for those independents to throw up their hands and say i hate both these guys. i'm just going to stay home and not vote. whose coming out so far? colorado secretary of state says 1.6 million people...
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carried pennsylvania, he also carried california and illinois and new jersey, places where they would hunt romney down with dogs. this is not like the map he needs if he wants to win pennsylvania. i don't really wish him well, i don't wish him any ill. but he's wasting money. >> what's the strategy, john avlon? you're in ohio tonight. is the push in pa a a sign of weakness in ohio? john king's talking about he feels it's neck and neck, different than he felt in the last election, but do you think that? >> president obama has had a small but steady lead in ohio. we think the romney campaign is looking at a saturation point. there's not much more than you can do except get out the vote. with money, the with the candidate's time more importantly, i think speaks to change the strategy because the current strategy isn't working. they're looking for alternate paths to 270. states where it looked like romney was pulling ahead in. florida, virginia, colorado. the fact the romney campaign is running an ad in florida trying to tie the president to castro and chavez speaks to insecurity on his p
carried pennsylvania, he also carried california and illinois and new jersey, places where they would hunt romney down with dogs. this is not like the map he needs if he wants to win pennsylvania. i don't really wish him well, i don't wish him any ill. but he's wasting money. >> what's the strategy, john avlon? you're in ohio tonight. is the push in pa a a sign of weakness in ohio? john king's talking about he feels it's neck and neck, different than he felt in the last election, but do...
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the polls stay open in california and the west end of california for a long time. right now still very bullish here in the romney campaign. >> dan, what we have seen, you know, mitt romney out there, joe biden out there on the campaign trail, president obama, who we saw making a couple of calls and greeting campaign workers, there is a lot of superstition on what the campaign has on what they should do on election day. >> that's right. the president always played basketball before big elections. he did not play in 2008 before new hampshire and he lost. so they're very superstitious. robert gibbs told me yesterday, we weren't going to repeat that mistake again this time. reggie love, the president's former body man, put together basketball game, went to a local rec center here in chicago, arne duncan, the president's secretary of education joined in with others to play the game. it is not one of these technical things you can tie to election results. but they very much believe in it, so the president playing basketball, hoping it will have an impact on the race. >>
the polls stay open in california and the west end of california for a long time. right now still very bullish here in the romney campaign. >> dan, what we have seen, you know, mitt romney out there, joe biden out there on the campaign trail, president obama, who we saw making a couple of calls and greeting campaign workers, there is a lot of superstition on what the campaign has on what they should do on election day. >> that's right. the president always played basketball before...
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. >>> the presidential race has been won by governor ronald reagan of california. >> george h.w. bush. >> too close to call. >> george w. bush re-elected. >> barack obama, president elect of the united states. >> this is cnn. >> right now barack obama and mitt romney, they're trying to close the deal with voters in battleground states. >> stand by for the new presidential poll as we count down the last crucial hours until election day. >> tonight, the final fran advertise race for president before voters have their say. mitt romney and barack obama ending a long and close campaign. >> do you want more of the same or do you want change? >> fighting for every vote until the bitter end. >> we know what change looks like and what he is offering ain't it. >> this hour our last presidential poll before election day, the candidate's 11th hour game plan and the possibility of a stunning cliff hang zero this is the time to elect a leader. >> i would like to win this earlier than later. >> cnn's countdown to election day, the fight for the presidency, the battle for congress, and the issue
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the story is different in california where house democrats picked up another seat after congresswoman mary bono conceded to her challenger raul ruiz. >>> and across the country, voting rights were a concern for some, for a lot of people, actually. new laws, confusion and voting machine shortages had some wa h watchdogs crying foul. now, despite the criticisms, the supreme court will hear a challenge to the voting rights act. a law seen as the federal government's most powerful tool in protecting minority rights at the polls. the plaintiff one alabama county said the fed should not subject some states to stricter standards than others. oral arguments will be held next year with the ruling expected in june. >>> and after the one-two punch of superstorm sandy and a nor'easter, hundreds of thousands remain without power in the northeast, including an estimated 150,000 customers in three long island counties. new york governor andrew cuomo offering a stinging critique of the the utily company involved. >> we gave them a franchise because they represented themselves as experts at doing this
the story is different in california where house democrats picked up another seat after congresswoman mary bono conceded to her challenger raul ruiz. >>> and across the country, voting rights were a concern for some, for a lot of people, actually. new laws, confusion and voting machine shortages had some wa h watchdogs crying foul. now, despite the criticisms, the supreme court will hear a challenge to the voting rights act. a law seen as the federal government's most powerful tool in...
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democrats are trying hard to unseat gop incumbents in blue states like california, new york and illinois and could see gains in maryland and florida. so why do these house races matter? members of congress will have to make big decisions in the coming months. chief among them, reaching a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, a series of tax increases and spending cuts set to take effect next year. >> the zoidecisions confronting congress over the next four months are bigger than most of us have seen in our lifetime, i think, on the fiscal will matters at least. >> reporter: athena jones,s cnn, washington. >> hurricane sandy changes the rules for election day. some voters will now cast their ballots by e-mail and fax. how d? dumb luck? or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made. about marriage. children. money. about tomorrow. here's to good decisions. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the wr
democrats are trying hard to unseat gop incumbents in blue states like california, new york and illinois and could see gains in maryland and florida. so why do these house races matter? members of congress will have to make big decisions in the coming months. chief among them, reaching a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, a series of tax increases and spending cuts set to take effect next year. >> the zoidecisions confronting congress over the next four months are bigger than most...